Saturday, December 31, 2016

Re: [MW:25858] PWHT reqmt for welds as per API 6D

Regardless codes, your odds to succeed are minimal if you don not perform PWHT.


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It is indeed mandatory for Pwht as per ucs 56 of sec viii div 1 for thk above 38 mm,& you should have pqr qualified with Pwht.

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Dear Experts,
I have a Groove weld joint of thickness 40mm. The standard i need to follow is API 6D..
Welding procedures qualified under ASME sec.IX without PWHT with a test coupon of 50mm thickness of material ASTM A516 gr.70..
API 6D states " PWHT shall be performed in accordance with the applicable material specification or design code"
My material specification is ASTM A516 gr. 70 and Design code is ASME Sec.VIII Div. 1
A516 standard doesnt states welding or PWHT requirement, whereas ASME sec.VIII states - thickness above 38mm PWHT is mandatory..
Can i take the material specification to justify for not performing PWHT..
Please advise
With regards and thanks
Vadivel M

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Friday, December 30, 2016

Re: [MW:25855] PWHT reqmt for welds as per API 6D

It is indeed mandatory for Pwht as per ucs 56 of sec viii div 1 for thk above 38 mm,& you should have pqr qualified with Pwht.

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Dear Experts,
I have a Groove weld joint of thickness 40mm. The standard i need to follow is API 6D..
Welding procedures qualified under ASME sec.IX without PWHT with a test coupon of 50mm thickness of material ASTM A516 gr.70..
API 6D states " PWHT shall be performed in accordance with the applicable material specification or design code"
My material specification is ASTM A516 gr. 70 and Design code is ASME Sec.VIII Div. 1
A516 standard doesnt states welding or PWHT requirement, whereas ASME sec.VIII states - thickness above 38mm PWHT is mandatory..
Can i take the material specification to justify for not performing PWHT..
Please advise
With regards and thanks
Vadivel M

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Re: [MW:25855] PWHT reqmt for welds as per API 6D

In no case. You have to comply with VIII-1



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Subject: [MW:25854] PWHT reqmt for welds as per API 6D

Dear Experts,
I have a Groove weld joint of thickness 40mm. The standard i need to follow is API 6D..
Welding procedures qualified under ASME sec.IX without PWHT with a test coupon of 50mm thickness of material ASTM A516 gr.70..
API 6D states " PWHT shall be performed in accordance with the applicable material specification or design code"
My material specification is ASTM A516 gr. 70 and Design code is ASME Sec.VIII Div. 1
A516 standard doesnt states welding or PWHT requirement, whereas ASME sec.VIII states - thickness above 38mm PWHT is mandatory..
Can i take the material specification to justify for not performing PWHT..
Please advise
With regards and thanks
Vadivel M

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[MW:25855] RE: 25854] PWHT reqmt for welds as per API 6D

Dear Vadival,

You have to comply with the requirements of the design code, which in this case is ASME VIII Div 1. That determines the application requirements, not the material specification.

Alan Denney
AKD Materials Consulting Ltd

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Subject: [MW:25854] PWHT reqmt for welds as per API 6D

Dear Experts,
I have a Groove weld joint of thickness 40mm. The standard i need to follow is API 6D..
Welding procedures qualified under ASME sec.IX without PWHT with a test coupon of 50mm thickness of material ASTM A516 gr.70..
API 6D states " PWHT shall be performed in accordance with the applicable material specification or design code"
My material specification is ASTM A516 gr. 70 and Design code is ASME Sec.VIII Div. 1
A516 standard doesnt states welding or PWHT requirement, whereas ASME sec.VIII states - thickness above 38mm PWHT is mandatory..
Can i take the material specification to justify for not performing PWHT..
Please advise
With regards and thanks
Vadivel M

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[MW:25854] PWHT reqmt for welds as per API 6D

Dear Experts,
I have a Groove weld joint of thickness 40mm. The standard i need to follow is API 6D..
Welding procedures qualified under ASME sec.IX without PWHT with a test coupon of 50mm thickness of material ASTM A516 gr.70..
API 6D states " PWHT shall be performed in accordance with the applicable material specification or design code"
My material specification is ASTM A516 gr. 70 and Design code is ASME Sec.VIII Div. 1
A516 standard doesnt states welding or PWHT requirement, whereas ASME sec.VIII states - thickness above 38mm PWHT is mandatory..
Can i take the material specification to justify for not performing PWHT..
Please advise
With regards and thanks
Vadivel M

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Thursday, December 29, 2016

Re: [MW:25851] RE: 25843] Welder performance for Temper Bead Welding

You have to find the way through the labyrinth of QW-290 in ASME IX

2016-12-27 7:05 GMT+02:00 pgoswami <pgoswami@quickclic.net>:

Hi Karthikeyan,

 

The default rule is ASME Sec-IX, QW-290. If  the applications are for pipelines, then you need to follow the guidelines of Piping Research Council(PRCI) also as additional resource.

 

Where this technique would be applied, and what's the grade of steel in question?

 

Appreciate your response.

 

Thanks.

 

 

 

Pradip Goswami, P.Eng,IWE
Independent Welding & Metallurgical Engineering Specialist.
Ontario,Canada.
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pradip.goswami@gmail.com

 


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Subject: [MW:25843] Welder performance for Temper Bead Welding

 

Dear Experts,

 

Could you please clarify the mentioned subject, is it necessary to qualify the welders to perform the Temper Bead weld. If yes, what is the procedure/method for qualifying the welders.

 

Thank you,

Karthikeyan M

QA/QC Team 

Al-Muzain, Saudiarabia.

 

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Wednesday, December 28, 2016

Re: [MW:25852] dual material certification and marking of grades on product

them both

2016-12-28 20:26 GMT+02:00 George Dilintas <dilintas@gmail.com>:
if the two specifications require marking then you have to implemented

2016-12-27 15:38 GMT+02:00 manivannan hemu <hemumanivannan@gmail.com>:
Dear Experts,

Please clarify:
  • is it mandatory to mark both grades on the pressure containing  part so as to certify them to 3.1 certificate  with dual grades mentioned in it ?
Thanks, MANIVANNAN.P

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Re: [MW:25853] Piping alignement tolerance as per ASME B31.1

see fig 127. 3 in B31-1

2016-12-27 10:52 GMT+02:00 Raneesh.PK <pkraneesh@gmail.com>:

Dear Experts,

Construction code - ASME B.31.1 (Fuel gas system)

Service - Fuel gas system

I wanted to know how much tolerance can accept  while doing piping alignment inspection like straightness checking , elevation checking dimensional checking etc

Nothing was mentioned in contract documents and project specification.

Please provide the reference.



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Tuesday, December 27, 2016

Re: [MW:25849] Welder Qualification as per API 1104

Thanks sir,
                     I appreciate your guidance... my doubt is If he weld the lower thickness with the same parameters then what will be happened...? Is any impacts in mechanical properties? Please explain...!

Thanks and regards,

Krishnasamy. M

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On Dec 27, 2016, at 5:09 PM, joydev dalai <joykolkata07@gmail.com> wrote:

Dear Krishnasamy,

As per API 1104 Thickness range is a essential variable for WQT. Please go through the Cl. No- 6.2.2 ( Scope) Point - e
for your reference  

On Tue, Dec 27, 2016 at 11:31 AM, Krishnasamy Masanam <krishnasamy1968@gmail.com> wrote:
Dear Experts,
Have a nice day to you all... I have doubt about welder qualification thickness range.

One of the welder has been successfully completed his WQT as per API 1104 with the thickness 21.1mm followed by the the 21.1 to 31.935mm thickness range WPS. Is he eligible for below 4.8 to 19.mm (0.188" to 0.750") if he cannot weld the lower thickness, why?

In API 1104, thickness is essential variable

I am expecting a favorable reply... thanks in advance...

Krishnasamy. M

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[MW:25850] dual material certification and marking of grades on product

Dear Experts,

Please clarify:
  • is it mandatory to mark both grades on the pressure containing  part so as to certify them to 3.1 certificate  with dual grades mentioned in it ?
Thanks, MANIVANNAN.P

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Re: [MW:25848] Welder Qualification as per API 1104

Dear Krishnasamy,

As per API 1104 Thickness range is a essential variable for WQT. Please go through the Cl. No- 6.2.2 ( Scope) Point - e
for your reference  

On Tue, Dec 27, 2016 at 11:31 AM, Krishnasamy Masanam <krishnasamy1968@gmail.com> wrote:
Dear Experts,
Have a nice day to you all... I have doubt about welder qualification thickness range.

One of the welder has been successfully completed his WQT as per API 1104 with the thickness 21.1mm followed by the the 21.1 to 31.935mm thickness range WPS. Is he eligible for below 4.8 to 19.mm (0.188" to 0.750") if he cannot weld the lower thickness, why?

In API 1104, thickness is essential variable

I am expecting a favorable reply... thanks in advance...

Krishnasamy. M

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[MW:25847] Piping alignement tolerance as per ASME B31.1


Dear Experts,

Construction code - ASME B.31.1 (Fuel gas system)

Service - Fuel gas system

I wanted to know how much tolerance can accept  while doing piping alignment inspection like straightness checking , elevation checking dimensional checking etc

Nothing was mentioned in contract documents and project specification.

Please provide the reference.



*RANEESH.PK 

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[MW:25846] Welder Qualification as per API 1104

Dear Experts,
Have a nice day to you all... I have doubt about welder qualification thickness range.

One of the welder has been successfully completed his WQT as per API 1104 with the thickness 21.1mm followed by the the 21.1 to 31.935mm thickness range WPS. Is he eligible for below 4.8 to 19.mm (0.188" to 0.750") if he cannot weld the lower thickness, why?

In API 1104, thickness is essential variable

I am expecting a favorable reply... thanks in advance...

Krishnasamy. M

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[MW:25845] RE: 25843] Welder performance for Temper Bead Welding

Hi Karthikeyan,

 

The default rule is ASME Sec-IX, QW-290. If  the applications are for pipelines, then you need to follow the guidelines of Piping Research Council(PRCI) also as additional resource.

 

Where this technique would be applied, and what’s the grade of steel in question?

 

Appreciate your response.

 

Thanks.

 

 

 

Pradip Goswami, P.Eng,IWE
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Subject: [MW:25843] Welder performance for Temper Bead Welding

 

Dear Experts,

 

Could you please clarify the mentioned subject, is it necessary to qualify the welders to perform the Temper Bead weld. If yes, what is the procedure/method for qualifying the welders.

 

Thank you,

Karthikeyan M

QA/QC Team 

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[MW:25844] RE: 25843] Welder performance for Temper Bead Welding

 

 

Pradip Goswami, P.Eng,IWE
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Subject: [MW:25843] Welder performance for Temper Bead Welding

 

Dear Experts,

 

Could you please clarify the mentioned subject, is it necessary to qualify the welders to perform the Temper Bead weld. If yes, what is the procedure/method for qualifying the welders.

 

Thank you,

Karthikeyan M

QA/QC Team 

Al-Muzain, Saudiarabia.

 

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Monday, December 26, 2016

[MW:25843] Welder performance for Temper Bead Welding

Dear Experts,

Could you please clarify the mentioned subject, is it necessary to qualify the welders to perform the Temper Bead weld. If yes, what is the procedure/method for qualifying the welders.

Thank you,
Karthikeyan M
QA/QC Team 
Al-Muzain, Saudiarabia.

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Sunday, December 25, 2016

Re: [MW:25842] equivalent material flange spec A 694

Hi, You may select ASTM A707 F60 L3 as per 02-SAMSS-011, provided you should need to get approval from your customer.

Regards,
Mubeen

On Sat, Dec 24, 2016 at 1:54 PM, Vijay Patre <vijay.patre09@gmail.com> wrote:
A694 F65 grade material is indicated in B 31.3, special material for high temp haigh pressure  service. End user can give you concurrence to use other material, since allowable stress indicated in 31.3 is much higher than the generally used CS material.

On Dec 24, 2016 8:17 AM, "'lukman hakim' via Materials & Welding" <materials-welding@googlegroups.com> wrote:
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Need your advice for equivalent material flange with spec A 694 Grade F65. We need only 2 ea flange 2" but no available stock in market. we also have try to request manufacture but they decline since they have a minimum order. Your advice is highly appreciated. Thanks


Regards,


Lukman



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Saturday, December 24, 2016

Re: [MW:25841] E8018-B3L can be replaced with E9018-B3L

Yes you can use E 9018-B3, we have also used the same and the results are good. Make sure you do the proper preheating, maintain the interpass and also there is a posheat requirement for the P22 materials.

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Can anyone suggest the electrode EQUIVALENT FOR E8018-B3L  for welding SA 387 GR 22 CL2 PLATE SEAM BUTT WELDS WITH IMAPCT REQUIREMENT  55 JOULES AT -30deg.C.

Since, in the market, only E9018-B3L is available.

​Can we use E9018-B3L instead of  E8018-B3L

Thanks & Regards

​G.J.RAJU
QC Chennai
Mob; +91 9940429224​

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Re: [MW:25840] equivalent material flange spec A 694

A694 F65 grade material is indicated in B 31.3, special material for high temp haigh pressure  service. End user can give you concurrence to use other material, since allowable stress indicated in 31.3 is much higher than the generally used CS material.

On Dec 24, 2016 8:17 AM, "'lukman hakim' via Materials & Welding" <materials-welding@googlegroups.com> wrote:
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Need your advice for equivalent material flange with spec A 694 Grade F65. We need only 2 ea flange 2" but no available stock in market. we also have try to request manufacture but they decline since they have a minimum order. Your advice is highly appreciated. Thanks


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Lukman



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Re: [MW:25839] E8018-B3L can be replaced with E9018-B3L

Hello Raju,

What are your service conditions (temperature, corrosion etc.) and what are the material (or weld) requirements as per your specification?


Ramin  Kondori
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On Fri, Dec 23, 2016 at 4:34 PM, GUJULA JAYARAMAN Raju <rajudhanush@gmail.com> wrote:
Can anyone suggest the electrode EQUIVALENT FOR E8018-B3L  for welding SA 387 GR 22 CL2 PLATE SEAM BUTT WELDS WITH IMAPCT REQUIREMENT  55 JOULES AT -30deg.C.

Since, in the market, only E9018-B3L is available.

​Can we use E9018-B3L instead of  E8018-B3L

Thanks & Regards

​G.J.RAJU
QC Chennai
Mob; +91 9940429224​

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Re: [MW:34832] Inquiry about Single Bevel with Back Grinding

Dear Uday, As per your question that one is called with backing only,Simple both side you are welding it is backing with strip or without st...