Monday, August 30, 2010

RE: [MW:6781] PWHT of dis-similar materials

Dear Johnson,

 

There will be no field hydrotest afterwards.

 

Regards,

 

Safa

 

From: materials-welding@googlegroups.com [mailto:materials-welding@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Johnson Madukayil
Sent: Monday, August 30, 2010 12:33 PM
To: materials-welding@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: [MW:6778] PWHT of dis-similar materials

 

Does this also imply that there will be no field hydrotest afterwards?

Johnson Madukayil

On Sun, Aug 29, 2010 at 6:54 PM, Johnson Madukayil <jmadukayil@gmail.com> wrote:

Why do you have to keep the hydrotest caps on after hydrotest? I would advise you to remove the caps and then do the PWHT.

Johnson Madukayil

On Sun, Aug 29, 2010 at 11:23 AM, Safa Özhan <safaozhan@gmail.com> wrote:

Dear All,

I think we've got a really serious problem regarding PWHT of dissimilar
materials.

In some of our in-house applications, we have to weld hydro test caps on
open ends' of pipe-spools in order to hydro test them.
After welding of caps are completed, we heat treat the spools together with
(most of the time caps made of dissimilar material, mostly CS Caps because
of cheapness) Hydro-Test caps. Even though, thickness of these hydro test
caps are calculated as per related code, one of our concern starts because
of the effects of excessive heat treatment on hydro test caps. Because; as
per codes, allowable stress values should be chosen in accordance with the
hydro test temperature which should be lower because of excessive PWHT, but
how much ? Are there any codes explaining this situation ? Does any member
has experienced same kind of problem ?

Other concerning point is the service life of that work piece.  Even though
the caps work properly after PWHT, then the question should be how many
times we can use that caps in our other hydro tests, of course safely.

The main problem indeed is, are there any approach which can assume/predict
the material properties (Especially reduction in durability.) after PWHT
depending of PWHT parameters ?

It would be highly appreciated if some of you can address a code with a
working example of solution.

In order to visualize the problem pls see below example of the concerning
situation;

- Material of spool is P91 and the cap's is CS.
- PWHT temp  : 730 C
- PWHT duration : 1 hr.

How can we calculate the reduction in durability ?

Thanks for your time,

Regards,

Safa


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