Saturday, January 29, 2011

[MW:9550] Re: Requirement of suitable welding consumables SAW and SMAW for API 5L X65

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On Jan 29, 12:32 pm, "muthu barathi" <muthu_bara...@rediffmail.com>
wrote:
> Dear Sir
>
> Actually this material is for Piling work. We are constructing a new
> jetty . Steel Pile material is API - 5 L PSL - 2 / Grade X-65 . Pile
> size OD - 1219mm and wall thickness - 22.22mm and also other size OD -
> 914mm and wall thickness - 22.22mm.
>
> Now I want make a WPS by carrying out PQR . So I am searching based on
> the sample pipe's MTC. The reading I have given is replica of MTC and
> the is certified by Lloyds Surveyor too.
>
> Now please tell me the correct welding electrode for SMAW and wire and
> flux for SAW process. As per API 5L PSL 2 / Grade 65. the requirement -
>
> X 65 -  YS - 448 MPa.   TS - 531 MPa.   EL% - 23 - Impact at 0 deg.C    
> 27 Joules.      C - 0.22        Mn - 1.45       P- 0.025        
> S- 0.015        Ti - 0.06
>
> Approved brands electrodes - ESAB and OERLIKON from these consumables
> shall be selected.
>
> While testing PQR it should not fail.
>
> Expecting your mail shortly.
>
> Thanking You.
>
> With Regards,
>
> Muthu Barathi P
>
> On Fri, 28 Jan 2011 03:28:26 +0530  wrote
>
>
> Mr. Muthu,
>
> What's the applicable specification for this material,
> ASTM/ASME/EN or any proprietary grade for any client or any vendor's
> specification.The elongation and impact properties asked are highly
> un-realistic. You never get a Carbon or Low Alloy steel with 46%
> elongation
> requirement, also, impact requirement is extremely high.
>
> I would say, if you have any design paper work, which
> indicates the grade or heat treatment of this steel the correct AWS
> type of
> welding consumables, SAW wire+flux specification etc could be worked
> out.
> Otherwise YOU SHOULD NEVER CHOOSE WELDING CONSUMABLES BASED ON THE
> CHEMICAL
> COMPOSITION ALONE.
>
> Thanks.
>
> Pradip Goswami,P.Eng.IWE
> Welding & Metallurgical Specialist
> & Consultant
> Ontario, Canada.
> Email-pgosw...@sympatico.ca,
> pgosw...@quickclic.net
>
>
>
> From: materials-welding@googlegroups.com
> [mailto:materials-welding@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Pablo J
> Acelajado>Sent: Thursday, January 27, 2011 10:08 AM
> >To:
>
> materials-welding@googlegroups.com>Subject: RE: [MW:9529] Requirement
>
> of suitable welding consumables SAW and SMAW
>
>
>
> January 27,
> 2011
>
> Hello there!
>
> This material is very strong one. I think
> the welding consumable suppliers can best answer this question.
>
> My understanding is that the percentage
> elongationis not required for the weld.
> Thank you.
>
> Best regards.
> PJA
>
> From:
> materials-welding@googlegroups.com
> [mailto:materials-welding@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Kathalingam
> Babu>Sent: Thursday, January 27, 2011 1:10
> PM
> >To: materials-welding@googlegroups.com
> >Subject: Re: [MW:9526] Requirement of
>
> suitable welding consumables SAW and SMAW
>
> Hi
>
> The elongation requirement is very stringent, it is very
> difficult to meet 46%, you have consult with the specific consumable
> suppliers
> to get 46%
>
> Thanks & Regards,
>
> K. Babu
>
> >----- Original Message -----
>
>   From: muthu barathi
>
>   To: materials-welding@googlegroups.com
>
>   Sent: Thursday,
>   January 27, 2011 4:36 PM
>
>   Subject: [MW:9523]
>   Requirement of suitable welding consumables SAW and
>   SMAW
>
>   Hi Friends,
>
> >Let me get your expertise of
>
>   selection of welding consumables in this>regard.
>
> >The base material
>
>   Chemical properties as given under (%):
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> >C - 0.066
> >Si - 0.26
> >Mn -
>   1.55
> >P - 0.014
> >S - 0.004
> >Al - 0.046
> >Cr - 0.186
> >Ni - 0.015
> >Mo
>   - 0.002
> >Cu - 0.020
> >V - 0.057
> >Nb - 0.065
> >Ti - 0.020
> >N -
>   0.007
> >B - 0.00025
> >Ca - 0.0025
> >CE - 0.371
>
> >MECHANICAL
>   PROPERTIES
> >YIELD STRENGTH - 516 MPa
> >TENSILE STRENGTH - 625
>   MPa.
> >ELONG % - 46
> >IMOPACT
>
>   - (-) 10 DEGREE C - 250 JOULES
>
> >NOW PLEASE TELL ME, WHICH
>
>   ELECTRODE FOR SMAW (BRAMDS ESAB, OERLIKON)>AND SAW - FLUX AND WIRE WILL
>
>   SUIT AND PASS PQR TEST FOR PREPARATION OF
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> >WPS?
>
> >PLEASE
>   HELP.
> >THANKING YOU.
>
> >Dear
>   Sir,
>
> >Thanking You,
>
> >Honesty is the best
>   Policy
>
> >With Warm Regards,
>
> >Muthu Barathi P
> >Mobile
>
>   No:00962788269821 (Jordan)
>
> >00962775401951
>
>  

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